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FIOS vs Cable (Cox Communications) part 3 – Follow up

We upgraded our connection to 50/20 (50 mbps down and 20 mbps up).  I must say the results are quite impressive.  For the exact same price (~$90/month) we have a full 50 mpbs!

I had to change my  Router once again though.  I achieved these results with the $99 Dlink DIR-655.  The router seems to handle itself quite well.  I am considering going to a full blown Linux router, but the Dlink seems to be doing nicely.

I have had quite an easy time dealing with Verizon Support.  Their techs do not treat me like an idiot.  I asked one tech during the year to release my DHCP since I had a router die without releasing it.  He knew exactly what I wanted and the new router was working within seconds.  Then we had ordered the upgrade for 50/20 and the system was still performing at 30/15.  So we called, and within a short amount of time they found the issue and fixed it.

Before I obtained the DLINK DIR-655, I tried a Linksys WRVS4400N router from Cisco.  I ended up returning this router due to the Download on the speedtest sites maxing at 15-20 mbps.  That router looks nice and performs poorly.  I would stay away from it.

FiOS vs Cable (Cox Communications) part 2 – Install Day

Today is the day.  FiOS is now installed.  Here are a few tips that I gathered from reading about everyone else experiences.  Ask the guy to do ethernet from the ONT box.  They can and will do it only if you ask.  Otherwise you will get Coax cable to your supplied Actiontec MI424 Router.  Now, I can not confirm or deny this, but I think there is a lag if you use the Coax method of an additional 5 ms or so.  If anyone can confirm this, please let me know.

Here is my tracert (trace route) for FiOS to this site (residing on a gigabit fiber network on Level3′s backbone).

Tracing route to []
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  myrouter []
2     3 ms     2 ms     2 ms []
3     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms []
4     9 ms     9 ms     8 ms []
5     9 ms     9 ms     9 ms []
6     9 ms     9 ms     9 ms []
7     *        9 ms     9 ms
8    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms []
9    10 ms    11 ms    11 ms []
10    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms

Well, a 2 ms drop is very acceptable compared to Cox’s 6-8 ms drop.

Here is the new speed test:

As you can see I get pretty close to the 30/15 number I signed up for.  The upstream test doesn’t seem to be that fair anyways since it happens so quick.  But, Verizon Fios is not fudging any numbers here.

Since I have a very specialized WRT-54gs router, I installed that after the tech guy left.  I love to use DD-WRT on my Linksys router, so I wanted that back.  It performs just as well as the ActionTec router as far as I can tell.

If you want to use your own router here are some tips:

  1. You must have Ethernet to the ONT (The box outside that the fiber goes into).  You can ask for it later, but it is not as easy to install.  You will have to call Verizon to switch it if you wait.
  2. Make sure you use MAC Clone on your router and set it to the MAC address listed on the ActionTech router.
  3. Turn off STP if you have an option to.  I couldn’t get the router to pick up DHCP until this was off.
  4. If you have FiOS TV, check out Verizon_FIOS_setup_with_dd-wrt_as_primary_router


UPDATE (1/12/2008) : I switched back to the ActionTec Router.  It is far faster than my Linksys WRT-54GS.  The Linksys would have trouble at 30mbps.

FiOS vs Cable (Cox Communications) part 1

Check out Part 2 for the final results.

Tomorrow I will have FIOS installed.  30 down / 15 up.  One thing that is always bothered me about Cable is that I seem to drop 6-10 ms just from my cable modem to Cox’s.

Here is my current tracert (traceroute) to this site.  This site is connected on Level3′s backbone via fiber and a gigabit connection.

Tracing route to [] over a maximum of 30 hops:

1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms
2     8 ms     7 ms     7 ms
3     7 ms     8 ms     8 ms
4     7 ms     6 ms     9 ms
5     8 ms     7 ms     7 ms
6     8 ms     7 ms     7 ms
7     7 ms     7 ms    11 ms []
8     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms []
9    15 ms    15 ms    15 ms []
10    14 ms    13 ms    13 ms []
11     *       15 ms    14 ms []
12    15 ms    17 ms    17 ms []
13    16 ms    15 ms    15 ms []
14    15 ms    15 ms    13 ms

As you can see, 6-8 of the ms drop is from my cable modem to cox.  I am hoping that fiber to my home should allow for a smaller drop.  My Cox Connection is a business class connection and offers me 15 down / 2 up.

I will continue this with Part 2 by the end of the week with details and tips for a FIOS install.